I need some motor help again

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I'm doing my first motor swap; instead of using a plasma dash, or at least for the meantime, I'm giving Spencer my O-face Thomas' motor. Although, I can't get Spencer's motor out, because of metal plates being stuck inside of it, probably for electricity or somethin' to make the battery turn it on, but I don't want to yank it out and end up damaging it.
As for Thomas, I can't get it out because of it being superglued to a sheet of paper that seems to SEPARATE it from a metal line.
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(02-18-2016, 12:38 AM)Miksolo Wrote: I'm doing my first motor swap; instead of using a plasma dash, or at least for the meantime, I'm giving Spencer my O-face Thomas' motor. Although, I can't get Spencer's motor out, because of metal plates being stuck inside of it, probably for electricity or somethin' to make the battery turn it on, but I don't want to yank it out and end up damaging it.
As for Thomas, I can't get it out because of it being superglued to a sheet of paper that seems to SEPARATE it from a metal line.

Can you post some pictures? Also the model of engine you are referring too? Thanks
(02-18-2016, 12:57 AM)ripley802 Wrote: Can you post some pictures? Also the model of engine you are referring too? Thanks

I will, but I think it's too late. I bumped into a table, and Thomas' motor casing fell off, and the motor snapped out. I can't say for absolute certain, but the metal plate seemed to have been connected, and now it's broken. ;-;
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In the old Spencer he uses a flat drive motor, the strips of metal hold the motor in place and are used as conductors for the power (instead of wires) if you want to remove them you'll have to heat the point where the metal touches the motor tab (using a soldering iron) to melt the solder on the connection,

As for motors with paper, some have them, some don't, it's to stop one of these metal strips touching the motor casing and energising it, you don't always need the paper if there is enough clearance, but saying that, if it was fitted it was because it needs it!

If your going to be doing motor swaps I don't know how much difference a standard motor will make regardless if it's Spencer or Thomas, they generally all use the same motor, the speed is more dependant on the gearbox used,
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What's a soldering iron? Also, the broken metal is acceptable, right? There's an easy and/or cheap fox and/or replacement?
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A soldering iron is basically a rod with a handle that heats up and let's you melt solder on the tip, they come in a veriaty of shapes and sizes but for people like us who aren't professionals you can get away with having a cheap one that's rated around 30w, you can see a soldering iron in ucwepns video, I don't know what country your from but like this http://m.ebay.com/itm/220V-40W-Electric-...nav=SEARCH

I have no affiliation but I'm suprised how cheap they are?
You'll also need some solder, I've found leaded solder to be best even if it's being phased out for health reasons. there are lots of videos on how to do it on youtube,

Yes if the metal is broken it will probably not work, the metal acts as a wire to carry the battery voltage, if it has broken all the way through and is not touching, your motor power circuit will not be complete and it will prevent your motor from getting the volts from the battery, if you are going to buy yourself a soldering iron, you should be able to bridge the gap in the broken metal with some solder, or you may be able to solder a length of wire between the broken bits, which would complete the circuit, if you don't solder it, I'm not sure how you would fix it, many moons ago super was asking about conductive glue, that might work in this application?
If you know it has broken and it works when you reassemble it, I'd still want to repair the break as in time it may lead to intermittent running issues
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2016, 11:32 PM by Tramp.)
Also when you buy solder make sure you get flux core conductive solder or get a jar of flux and conductive solder. The flux helps clean the metal and helps make it stick. Stay away from getting plumbing solder it doesn't conduct electricity well because its meant for sweating copper pipe joints.

You also want to take a bit of sandpaper and sand off the plating if the metal is shiny otherwise the solder wont stick to it very well.

Good luck and be careful with the soldering iron always place the tip away from combustible materials because the iron tip stays hot for along time!
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(02-18-2016, 11:28 PM)Tramp Wrote: A soldering iron is basically a rod with a handle that heats up and let's you melt solder on the tip, they come in a veriaty of shapes and sizes but for people like us who aren't professionals you can get away with having a cheap one that's rated around 30w, you can see a soldering iron in ucwepns video, I don't know what country your from but like this http://m.ebay.com/itm/220V-40W-Electric-...nav=SEARCH

I have no affiliation but I'm suprised how cheap they are?
You'll also need some solder, I've found leaded solder to be best even if it's being phased out for health reasons. there are lots of videos on how to do it on youtube,

Yes if the metal is broken it will probably not work, the metal acts as a wire to carry the battery voltage, if it has broken all the way through and is not touching, your motor power circuit will not be complete and it will prevent your motor from getting the volts from the battery, if you are going to buy yourself a soldering iron, you should be able to bridge the gap in the broken metal with some solder, or you may be able to solder a length of wire between the broken bits, which would complete the circuit, if you don't solder it, I'm not sure how you would fix it, many moons ago super was asking about conductive glue, that might work in this application?
If you know it has broken and it works when you reassemble it, I'd still want to repair the break as in time it may lead to intermittent running issues

Ah, thank you, Tramp. This is actually very helpful. I think it would still work even though it's broken, since there are no gaps, but not for long, as things could rattle about and unconnect eventually, so a soldering iron would help, too. I'lkl probably just wait until I get one.
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I recommend getting one as you will need it for most motor swaps



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